Symmetry Definition and 907 Threads

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    Dynamical chiral symmetry breaking

    I don't know if it is the correct sub-forum, if I choose wrong then feel free to move the thread. I was listening to a talk today using DCSB. I think I could get a glimpse on some other parts of the talk and found some ideas intriguing. I would like to understand them better, but I cannot...
  2. S

    Symmetry of higher order partial derivatives

    Hi, As per Clariut's theorem, if the derivatives of a function up to the high order are continuous at (a,b), then we can apply mixed derivatives. I am looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry_of_second_derivatives and I cannot understand in the example for non-symmetry, why the...
  3. L

    Maxwell–Faraday equation symmetry violation

    I still wonder about this. A simple results of this equation is: If a charge has a velocity in the positive y direction [v = (0,1,0)] and it accelerates in the positive x direction (it curls) then there will be a magnetic field in the positive z direction. There will be no magnetic field...
  4. Q

    Goldstone boson without symmetry?

    Hi, I was wondering about the U(1)_A problem. The Lagrangian exhibits a (in the limit of vanishing quark masses) U(1)_A symmetry but due to the chiral anomaly, the current J_5^{\mu} is not conserved: \partial_{\mu}J_5^{\mu} = G\tilde{G} + 2i\bar{u}\gamma_5 u +... The G\tilde{G} term...
  5. MathematicalPhysicist

    Question regarding CP symmetry and weak interaction

    I have the next decay: B^0 \rightarrow D^+ e^- \nu_e The question is: employ CP symmetry on the particles in this process, what reaction would you get? and what would happen if CP symmetry breaks? Now if I employ CP symmetry I get: B^0 \rightarrow D^- e^+ \bar{\nu_e} But in my...
  6. U

    Special relativity: proof of symmetry concept

    Homework Statement I am given a symmetric tensor A, meaning A^{\mu\nu}=A^{\nu\mu} and I am given an asymmetric tensor B, meaning B_{\mu\nu}=-B_{\nu\mu} Now I need to show that: A^{\mu\nu}B_{\mu\nu}=0 0) Homework Equations We know that an asymmetric tensor can be written as...
  7. C

    Make sure the Lagrangian symmetry?

    Is the Lagrangian of the neutral Proca field \mathcal{L}=-\frac{1}{16\pi}\left(F^{\mu\nu}F_{\mu\nu}-2m^2 A_{\mu} A^{\mu}\right) symmetric? And How to make sure whether it's symmetric.
  8. T

    Temporal symmetry solves all quantum paradoxes?

    Excerpted from an article by U. of Hawaii Physics Professor, Victor J. Stenger: "As has been known for seventy years, quantum phenomena depend not only on the initial conditions of an experimental setup but also on the final conditions. This observation already signals that the quantum...
  9. B

    Moment of inertia and axis of symmetry

    Homework Statement Derive an expression for the moment of inertia about the axis of symmetry for a cylinder of mass M , length L and radius a, where the mass density decreases as a function of distance from the axis as 1/r Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution 1) am i...
  10. J

    Symmetry Problem Analysis in Ansys Workbench

    Hello everybody, that´s a simple question: I have a symmetry problem to analisys using Structural Mechanic on Ansys Workbench. I´ve applied a Symmetry function on Design Modeler. Can I visualize the result on the whole geometry? Thank´s in advance
  11. C

    Why is E3 zero for cubic symmetry?

    The total electric field is given as Etotal = E0 +E1 +E2 +E3 Where E0 is the applied field, E1 is the depolarization, E2 is caused by polarization of a hypothetical sphere while E3 is the one dependent on lattice geometry... How come E3 is zero for cubic symmetry? Can I picture this as...
  12. U

    How Can You Determine Point-Rotational Symmetry of a General Function?

    Homework Statement Given f(x), find an expression to check whether f(x) has rotational symmetry about any arbitrary point (h, v).Homework Equations If f(x) = f(-x) then the function is symmetrical about the y-axis. If f(x) = -f(-x) then the function is point-rotational about the origin.The...
  13. K

    Symmetry breaking: what is the subgroup left?

    Hi... I have studied the standard model and know that spontaneous symmetry breaking by a vev breaks SU(2)xU(1) to a U(1). How do we know to what group a vev will break the original group? I have heard of Dynkin diagrams. Are they only for continuous groups? Is there any other method for...
  14. Y

    Question on Dirichlet problem in cylinder with radial symmetry.

    This is not homework. I have problem deriving the solution for cylinder with radial symmetry given: \nabla^2U(\rho,z)=R''+\frac{1}{\rho}R'+\frac{Z''}{Z}=0 Which give \rho^2 R''+ \rho R' -k\rho^2 R=0 \hbox { and } Z''+kZ=0 With given boundary conditions U(\rho,0) = U(\rho,h) =0...
  15. K

    Time reversal symmetry breaking in EM

    I have come across a problem I am trying to understand, and hoping someone here has some insight. Basically, when writing down different solutions for an EM field from given sources, there seems to be a problem from the standpoint of time symmetry. From my understanding, if you reverse time, the...
  16. R

    Understand the two doubly degenerate mode of D4h symmetry

    Hello all, This is not a homework problem. Just to understand the two doubly degenerate mode of D4h symmetry i wanted to make sample calculation. Pt in the middle of a square formed by 4 Cl atoms. PtCl4 has square planar structure (AB4) molecule. 1. What is the whole charge of PtCl4 ? Is this -2...
  17. R

    D4h Symmetry Group: 9 Normal Modes of Vibration

    Hello all, In a D4h symmetry group we have 5(3)-6=9 normal mode of vibrations. Normally in books they show only 7. Because 2 of that 7 doubly degenerate Eu modes. And i know the how it vibrates (picture shown in book). But does anyone know how their degenerate partners vibrate ? Is there some...
  18. T

    Conserved charge as a generator of symmetry, Peskin & Schroeder

    Hey! I am stuck at a passage in the QFT book of Peskin & Schroeder and I need your help :) It is about page 698, last break. The sentence is: "At long wavelength, the Goldstone bosons become infinitesimal symmetry rotations of the vacuum, Q |0> , where Q is the global charge associated...
  19. I

    Dihedral group D5 - Symmetry of a Pentagon - Conjugacy classes

    Hi I am struggling to get my head fully around the conjugacy classes of D5. Everywhere I have looked seems to say that there are 4 irreducible representations of D5 which implies that there are 4 conjugacy classes. However, when examining the symmetry of the pentagon I am only able to see 3...
  20. D

    Symmetry in Graphs: Conditions & Possibilities

    For a graph of any function, one of following conditions is said to exist so as for it to be symmetric: a graph is symmetric about y-axis if along with a point (x,y) a point (-x, y) exists. a graph is symmetric about x-axis if along with a point (x,y) a point (x, -y) exists. a graph is...
  21. A

    Nomenclature of high symmetry points in the bandstructure

    Can anyone help me how the high symmetry points in the bandstructure are named. I know a few rules which are as listed below: * Points (and lines) inside the Brillouin zone are denoted with Greek letters. * Points on the surface of the Brillouin zone with Roman letters. * The...
  22. Pengwuino

    Oreo-Milk Symmetry Breaking (OM-Violation)

    So I've found the strangest thing with oreos and milk. I have a glass of milk and when I just toss an oreo inside of it and let it sit, even for the longest time, it doesn't really get all saturated with milk and delicious. However, when I hold the oreo while dipping it in the milk, it becomes...
  23. Q

    Deriving the needed wavefunction transformation for gauge symmetry?

    Homework Statement Take the Schrodinger equation for a point particle in a field: i\hbar \frac{\partial \Psi}{\partial t} = \frac{1}{2m}(-i\hbar\nabla - q\vec{A})^2\Psi + q\phi\Psi I'm supposed to determine what the transformation for Psi is that corresponds to the gauge transformation...
  24. LeonhardEuler

    Enforced symmetry in multi-electron problems

    I've been thinking about how the requirement of anti-symmetry of the wavefunction is introduced in multi-electron problems and I am left puzzled over some aspects of it. Various types of symmetry come automatically in classical physics. If you are studying water flowing in a cylindrical...
  25. D

    How many supports are needed for a symmetrical and antisymmetrical truss?

    given a symmetrical truss, loaded with an assymetrical load, i can divide this truss into 2 separate symmetrical trusses, one with a symmetrical load and one with an antisymmetrical load, then to solve the truss i can solve half of each of these 2 trusses and add/subtract results accordingly...
  26. J

    What Are the Implications of Gluon Mass and SU(3) Symmetry Violation?

    I know people have looked into what it would mean if photons had a mass. But what would it mean if gluons had a mass? ie. if there was a small violation of SU(3) symmetry. In other words, how do we know (experimentally) there is SU(3) symmetry?
  27. R

    How is broken symmetry really observed?

    Hello, Now that there's only one week left until the LHC starts working on the collisions, I think it's a good idea for me to ease my mind and ask how will they observe superparticles and discern them from the SM particles.
  28. H

    Proving tensor symmetry under transformation

    Homework Statement Using indical notation, prove that a 2nd order symmetric tensor D remains symmetric when transformed into any other coordinate system. Homework Equations Tensor law of transformation (2nd order): D'_{pq} = a_{pr}a_{qs}D_{rs} The Attempt at a Solution I think I'm...
  29. R

    Finding Area Moment of Inertia for Axis 33 to X-Axis

    Homework Statement I have to find the area moment of inertia about an axis 33 to the x-axis http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2392/shape.jpg Homework Equations I_\phi=\frac{1}{2}(I_{xx}+I_{yy})+\frac{1}{2}(I{xx}-I_{yy})cos2\phi - I_{xy}sin2\phi The Attempt at a Solution I found...
  30. H

    Proof of transformational symmetry

    Homework Statement Using indical notation, prove that D retains it's symmetry when transformed into any other coordinate system, i.e. D'_{pq} = D'_{qp} (where D is a symmetric 2nd order tensor) Homework Equations D'_{pq} = a_{pr}a_{qs}D_{rs} (law of transformation for 2nd order tensors)...
  31. P

    How will our world be different if supersymmetry is an unbroken symmetry?

    With all kinds of low energy superpartner particles floating around, do we get the same types of atoms and molecules that build up our world? Will the periodic table of elements be larger or smaller? Is this world friendly to the evolution of intelligent life?
  32. T

    Point symmetry group matrix representations

    Is there any book or source avaliable that clearly shows the point symmetry operation with matrix representations?
  33. P

    Symmetry Group in GR: Modeling Our World

    What is the symmetry group of manifold which models our world in general relativity. In special relativity this group is Poincare group. Its elements preserve standard lorentz inner product. What structure is preserved by elements of symmetry group in GR (sygnature of metric, maybe sth else?).
  34. V

    Symmetry factors in Feyman Diagrams

    Sorry I am spamming the forum, but I have yet another question on Feynman diagrams - Please see attached picture. Apparently the symmetry factor for this FD is 1 - I am trying to understand why. My notes explain that "the symmetry factor is 1 because: φ(x1) contracts to φ(y1) in 4 different...
  35. B

    Gauss' Law symmetry of charge distribution

    This is a general question, I was reading my textbook and this statement confuses me: "The symmetry of the electric field must match the symmetry of the charge distribution" this is said regarding symmetry in relation to GAuss' law. I do not understand what they mean by symmetry of charge...
  36. J

    Symmetry breaking domain walls

    Symmetry breaking "domain walls" The only "spontaneously broken symmetry" that I can easily visualize, is cooling down a ferromagnetic material and having the spins randomly choose a direction to align. Since the choice is random, different regions will usually choose different directions...
  37. R

    Applying Guass' Law to Cylindrical Symmetry

    OK, having some trouble wrapping my head around this so would appreciate some clarification. Let us say I had a long, thin wall metal tube of radius R with a uniform charge per unit length. Would there be some magnitude of E of the electric field at a radial distance of R/2? I understand...
  38. S

    Symmetry and irreducible representation

    1. could anyone give sort of a qualititative explanation of how symmetry and irreducible representation are related in the context of molecular spectroscopy? like why is it so useful to count how many symmetries a molecule has and what does it have to do with irreducible represenations and...
  39. T

    Getting started with symmetry groups

    Hey guys, I've been doing a lot of reading on quantum mechanics lately and realized immediately that i am not going to get far without first understanding the meanings of lie groups, SU groups etc. Now I've loked at wiki but unfortunately wiki is not a very good tool for learning math, it's more...
  40. Z

    What Is the Symmetry Group of the Equation \( x^4 + a^2 = 0 \)?

    my question is , given the Group G of symmetries for the equation x^{4} + a^{2}=0 for some 'a' Real valued i see this equation is invariant under the changes x \rightarrow -x x \rightarrow ix x \rightarrow -ix x \rightarrow -x x \rightarrow i^{1/2}x x...
  41. J

    Is Local Poincare Symmetry Exact in All Approaches to Quantum Gravity?

    It is my understanding that in string theory, loop quantum gravity, the 'asymptotic safety' approach, and in semiclassical quantum gravity, local Poincare symmetry is exact. But there are things like DSR (does the D stand for Deformed, or Doubly? I've heard people say it either way), which...
  42. V

    Space-time symmetry (Langrangian Mechanics)

    When deriving the conserved quantity in the case of space-time symmetry, a line in my notes goes from: \int{dt.(1+\epsilon\dot{\xi}).L[q(t+\epsilon\xi)+{\delta}q(t+\epsilon\xi)]} - \int{dt.L[q(t)+{\delta}q(t)]} where L is the Lagrangian and \xi is a function of time and both integrals are...
  43. N

    Validity of Direct Product Structure of Symmetry Group

    In short, if we consider the group of symmetries of a regular octahedron, we see (or at least, the author of "Groups, Graphs and Trees" saw...) that the group is isomoprhic to Z2\otimesZ2\otimesZ2\otimesS3 - particularly since if we break up the vertices into 3 groups of front-back, top-bottom...
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    Lost in Symmetry and Super Symmetry

    Not getting symmetry at all. I keep reading over and looking for various materials on the subject, but I still can not seem to fully grasp it. Could someone explain what symmetry means in quantum mechanics in a way that a new learner can grasp? This question also applies to super-symmetry...
  45. W

    Why symmetry is not important in classical physics?

    but ultra important in quantum physics? i can see it is important in quantum physics but i can not see why it is less important in classical physics.
  46. E

    Does the superconductivity-Meissner effect break electromagnetic symmetry?

    In superconductivity, Meissner effect describes the expulsion of magnetic field. Could this be described as a breaking of the electromagnetic force in the way that the higgs field breaks electro-weak force?
  47. L

    What is the significance of symmetry in the complex plane?

    How does one express mathematically the fact that: if we complex-conjugated everything (switch i to -i (j to -j etc. in hypercomplex numbers) in all the definitions, theorems, functions, variables, exercises, jokes ;-)) in the mathematical literature the statements would still be true?
  48. D

    Broken symmetry, superconductivity and all that

    I am struggling for some time to understand the concept of broken symmetry. As I come more from the solid state side than from high energy physics. My problem is the following: I understand, how e.g. the rotational symmetry in a ferromagnet is broken. The magnetic moment is observable and I can...
  49. W

    Global symmetry of an N-component Klein-Gordon theory?

    The Lagrangian is given by, \sum_{a=1}^N \left[(\partial^{\mu}\phi_{a}^{\ast})(\partial_{\mu}\phi_{a})-m^{2}\phi_{a}^{\ast}\phi_{a}\right]. Is the symmetry SO(2N), SU(N) or U(N)? It seemed quite obvious to me and some of my friends that such theory has an SO(2N) symmetry. If we view...
  50. W

    Prove Symmetry Group of Regular Polygon Has 1 & 2 Dim Irreducible Reps

    how to prove that the symmetry group of a regular polygon has only 1 and 2 dim irreducible representations?
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