Commutator Definition and 266 Threads

  1. L

    Calculating the Commutator of x and p - Problem Discussion

    i have met a problem about the commutator of x and p. [x,p]=ihbar /p> is the eigenstate of momentum operator p. <p/xp-px/p> =<p/xp/p>-<p/px/p> =p<p/x/p>-p<p/x/p> the second term is got by the momentum operator p acting on the left state. =0...
  2. I

    Is the expectation value of this commutator zero?

    If I have H=p^2/2m+V(x), |a'> are energy eigenkets with eigenvalue E_{a'}, isn't the expectation value of [H,x] wrt |a'> not always 0? Don't I have that <a'|[H,x]|a'> = <a'|(Hx-xH)|a'> = <a'|Hx|a'> - <a'|xH|a'> = 0 ? But if I calculate the commutator, I get: <a'|[H,x]|a'> = <a'|-i p \hbar /...
  3. R

    Vanishing commutator for spacelike-separated operators?

    In David Tong's QFT notes (http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/tong/qft/qft.pdf p. 43, eqn. 2.89) he shows how the commutator of a scalar field \phi(x) and \phi(y) vanishes for spacelike-separated 4-vectors x and y, establishing that the theory is causal. For equal time, x^0=y^0, the commutator is...
  4. R

    How to Handle Gradient and Laplacian Commutators in Quantum Field Theory?

    Hi, could someone give me a hand with the two long commutators on page 25 of Peskin and Schroeder? I'm not sure how to deal with the gradient in the first and the laplacian in the second. Thanx alot
  5. E

    Commutator Relations vs. Schrodinger Equation

    Some books begin QM by postulating the Schrodinger equation, and arrive at the rest. Some books begin QM by postulating the commutator relations, and arrive at the rest. Which do you feel is more valid? Or are both equally valid? Is one more physical/mathematical than the other? I...
  6. Y

    Solving Commutator Trouble with Interaction/Dirac Picture

    Homework Statement Hi... I'm having something about the Interaction/Dirac picture. The equation of motion, for an observable A that doesn't depend on time in the Schrödinger picture, is given by: \[i\hbar \frac{d{{A}_{I}}}{dt}=\left[ {{A}_{I}},{{H}_{0}} \right]\] where...
  7. C

    Proving the Commutator Relationship with Power Series Expansion | Homework Help

    Homework Statement Show \left[x,f(p)\right)] = i\hbar\frac{d}{dp}(f(p))\right. Homework Equations I can use \left[x,p^{n}\right)] = i\hbar\\n\right.p^{n}\right. f(p) = \Sigma f_{n}p^{n} (power series expansion) The Attempt at a Solution I started by expanding f(p) to the power...
  8. R

    Commutator, where have I gone wrong?

    This is for the Pauli Matrics 0 and 1 are different Hilbert Spaces \left[(I-Z)_{0}\otimes(I-Z)_{1} , Y_{0}\otimes Z_{1}\right] =\left((I-Z)_{0}\otimes(I-Z)_{1}\right)\left(Y_{0}\otimes Z_{1}\right)-\left(Y_{0}\otimes Z_{1}\right)\left((I-Z)_{0}\otimes(I-Z)_{1}\right)...
  9. V

    Showing that commutator is invariant under orthchronous LTs

    I'm having difficulty deciphering my notes which 'proove' that the commutor of two real free fields φ(x) and φ(y) (lets call it i∆) ie. i∆=[φ(x),φ(y)] are Lorentz invariant under an orthocronous Lorentz transformation. Not sure if it helps but φ(x)=∫d3k[α(k)e-ikx+α+(k)eikx]. Now, apparently I...
  10. N

    What Is the Name of the Commutator Relation [A,exp(X*B)]?

    Homework Statement [A,exp(X*B)] = exp(X*B)[A,B]X Is there a name for this relation? Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution If not, how do you prove it? A(X*B)^n/n! - (X*B)^n/n! * A
  11. M

    What is the physical meaning of the commutator of L^2 and x_i?

    Task: The task is to compute the commutator of L^2 with all components of the r-vector. It seems to be an unusual task for I was unable to find it in any book. Known stuff: I know that [L_i,x_j]=i \hbar \epsilon_{ijk} x_k (\epsilon_{ijk} being the Levi-Civita symbol). Now I would go about as...
  12. H

    Commutator problem with momentum operators

    Homework Statement Find the commutator \left[\hat{p_{x}},\hat{p_{y}}\right] Homework Equations \hat{p_{x}}=\frac{\hbar}{i}\frac{\partial}{\partial x} \hat{p_{y}}=\frac{\hbar}{i}\frac{\partial}{\partial y} The Attempt at a Solution [\hat{p}_{x}...
  13. S

    Evaluating commutator with hamiltonian operator

    Evaluate the commutator [H,x], where H is Hamiltonian operator (including terms for kinetic and potential energy). How does it relate to p_x, momentum operator (-ih_bar d/dx)?
  14. 8

    STRACT: Understanding the Commutator of Position and Hamiltonian Operators

    Homework Statement Determine \left[\hat{x},\hat{H}\right] Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution =x\left(-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\delta^2}{\delta{x^2}}+V\right)\Psi-\left(-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\delta^2}{\delta{x^2}}+V\right)x\psi...
  15. B

    Angular momentum and Hamiltonian commutator

    Hello, Is it generally the case that [J, H] = dJ/dt? I saw this appear in a problem involving a spin 1/2 system interacting with a magnetic field. If so, why?This seems like a very basic relation but I'm having a bit of brain freeze and can't see the answer right now.
  16. V

    Commutators and Their Properties in Quantum Mechanics

    If we define: A_{j}=\omega \hat{x}_{j}+i \hat{p}_{j} and A^{+}_{j}=\omega \hat{x}_{j}-i \hat{p}_{j} Would it be true to say: [A_k , (A^{+}_{i}+A_i)(A^{+}_{j}-A_j)]=0 My reasoning is that, because [\hat{x}_{j}, \hat{p}_{i}]=0 the the ordering of the contents of commutation...
  17. J

    Help with commutator question please

    consider a general one dimensional potential v(x) drive an expression for the commutator [H,P] where h is hamiltonian operator and momentum operator. i keep getting zero and i don't think i should. since next part of homework question sais what condition must v(x) satisfy so that momentum will...
  18. pellman

    Classical limit of the commutator is a derivative?

    I just came across the following claim: \lim_{\hbar\rightarrow 0}[\frac{1}{\hbar}(AB-BA)] (which approaches the classical Poincare commutator) is a derivative with respect to \hbar. I know it looks like derivative, but is it really? Please elaborate.
  19. MathematicalPhysicist

    Proving Commutation of an Operator with Rotation Generator Components

    Homework Statement Prove that if A is an operator which commutes with two components of the rotation generator operator, J, then it commute with its third component. Homework Equations [A_{\alpha},J_{\beta}]=i \hbar \epsilon_{\alpha \beta \gamma} A_{\gamma} (not sure about the sign of...
  20. I

    Solve Tricky Commutator: Heisenberg Picture, a_k(t)

    Homework Statement Part of a much larger problem dealing with the Heisenberg picture. I am not remembering how to start evaluating the following commutator: \left [ a_k(t),\left(\sum_{k,\ell}a_k^\dagger <k|h|\ell>a_\ell\right)\right] Homework Equations See (a) The Attempt at a...
  21. A

    Angular momentum commutator derivation

    I am trying to prove: L_xL_y - LyLx = ihL_z Unfortunately I keep getting L_xL_y - L_yL_x = -ihL_z and I was hoping someone could spot the error in my calculations: L_xL_y - L_yL_x = ( yp_z - zp_y )( zp_x - xp_z ) - ( zp_x - xp_z )( yp_z - zp_y ) = yp_zzp_x - yp_zxp_z - zp_yzp_x +...
  22. I

    Proof about commutator bracket

    i've never really done a proof by induction but i would like to prove a statement about commutator relations so can you please check my proof: claim: [A,B^n]=nB^{n-1}[A,B] if [A,B]=k\cdot I where A,B are operators, I is the identity and k is any scalar. proof: [A,B^2] = [A,B]B+B[A,B] =...
  23. K

    Commutator of the density operator

    Hello all! I hope some of you are more proficient in juggling with bra-kets... I am wondering if/when the density operator commutes with other operators, especially with unitaries and observables. 1. My guess is, that it commutes with unitaries, but I am not sure if my thinking is correct...
  24. D

    How to calculate a commutator from hydrogen atom radial equation

    This is not homework, but is not general discussion, so not sure where this would go. In class we were deriving with the radial equations of a hydrogen atom, and in one of the equations was the commutator term: \left[ \frac{d}{d\rho}, \frac{1}{\rho}\right] my attempt was: \left[...
  25. T

    Explain Adjoint of Commutator Identity in Second Quantization

    Hi all. I found the following identity in a textbook on second quantization: ([a_1^{\dagger},a_2^{\dagger}]_{\mp})^{\dagger}=[a_1,a_2]_{\mp} but why? ([a_1^{\dagger},a_2^{\dagger}]_{\mp})^{\dagger}=(a_1^{\dagger}a_2^{\dagger}\mp a_2^{\dagger}a_1^{\dagger})^{\dagger}=a_2a_1\mp a_1a_2...
  26. T

    Commutator of kinetic energy and potential energy

    Hi, I am working with the Dirac picture in the second quantification. An operator in this picture is defined as (where some constants are 1) O_I=e^{iH_0t}Oe^{-iH_0t}. Now, it is evident that the hamiltonian H_0 = T + V is the same in Heisenberg or Dirac picture since the exponential...
  27. G

    Solving Commutator [E,x]: Stuck on One Tiny Portion

    Okay, I *know* that E and x are supposed to commute, but I'm stuck on one tiny portion when I work through this commutator... So, here's my work. Feel free to point out my error(s): [E,x]\Psi=(i\hbar\frac{\partial}{\partial t}x-xi\hbar\frac{\partial}{\partial t})\Psi ...which...
  28. M

    Commutator of Position and Energy

    This is a question about simple non-relativistic quantum mechanics in one dimension. If the energy operator is \imath \frac{h}{2\pi}\frac{\partial}{\partial t}, then it would appear to commute with the position operator x. Then, if the energy and position operators commute, I ought to be...
  29. A

    Software to calculate simple commutator relation ?

    software to calculate simple commutator relation ?? Dear All: I have hundred terms of commutators needs to be calculate. Each one looks like [{\epsilon_{i m}}^n\eta^m\frac{\partial}{\partial\eta^n},C\eta_j\eta^l\frac{\partial}{\partial\theta^l}] ,where C is function of \theta^i and...
  30. N

    Can the Commutator of Charges in QFT be Calculated Using Different Times?

    Consider the SUSY charge Q= \int d^3y~ \sigma^\mu \chi~ ~\partial_\mu \phi^\dagger~ The SUSY transformation of fields, let's say of the scalar field, can be found using the commutator i [ \epsilon \cdot Q, \phi(x)] = \delta \phi(x) using the equal time commutator...
  31. W

    Solving Perplexing Commutator for Simplification

    When simplifying this \int d^3x' [\pi(x), \frac{1}{2}\pi^2(x') + \frac{1}{2} \phi(x')( -\nabla^2 + m^2)\phi(x')] we know that [\pi(x), \pi(x')] = 0 [\phi(x), \pi(x')] = -i\delta(x-x') how does that simplify to \int d^3x' \delta(x-x')( -\nabla^2 + m^2)\phi(x') I know that...
  32. MathematicalPhysicist

    Proving Normality of [G,G] in G: A Commutator Question

    Perhaps someone will help me in this. I need to prove that the group [G,G] of elements of the form gh g^{-1}h^{-1} where g,h in G, is normal in G, i.e if k is in G, then kghg^{-1}h^{-1}k^{-1}=aba^{-1}b^{-1} for some a,b in G. I tried writing it as kghkk^{-1}g^{-1}h^{-1}k^{-1}, but here is...
  33. W

    [qft] Srednicki 2.3 Lorentz group generator commutator

    Homework Statement Verify that (2.16) follows from (2.14). Here \Lambda is a Lorentz transformation matrix, U is a unitary operator, M is a generator of the Lorentz group. Homework Equations 2.8: \delta\omega_{\rho\sigma}=-\delta\omega_{\sigma\rho} M^{\mu\nu}=-M^{\nu\mu} 2.14...
  34. H

    Peculiar feature of a commutator, can anyone explain?

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  35. H

    Peculiar feature of a commutator, can anyone explain?

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  36. B

    Commutator relations in simple harmonic oscillator

    Homework Statement Show that, [a, \hat H] = \hbar\omega, [a^+, \hat H] = -\hbar\omega Homework EquationsFor the SHO Hamiltonian \hat H = \hbar\omega(a^+a - \frac{\ 1 }{2}) with [a^+, a] = 1 [a, b] = -[b, a] The Attempt at a Solution I have tried the following: [a, \hat H] = a\hat...
  37. P

    Commutator and hermitian operator problem

    Hi all, i cannot find where's the trick in this little problem: Homework Statement We have an hermitian operator A and another operator B, and let's say they don't commute, i.e. [A,B] = cI (I is identity). So, if we take a normalized wavefunction |a> that is eigenfunction of the operator A...
  38. Fredrik

    Lie derivative of vector field = commutator

    Can somone remind me how to see that the Lie derivative of a vector field, defined as (L_XY)_p=\lim_{t\rightarrow 0}\frac{\phi_{-t}_*Y_{\phi_t(p)}-Y_p}{t} is actually equal to [X,Y]_p?
  39. N

    Hermitian Operators and the Commutator

    Homework Statement If A is a Hermitian operator, and [A,B]=0, must B necessarily be Hermitian as well? Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution
  40. K

    Commutator of 4-momentum and position

    Is there a commutation relation between x^{\mu} and \partial^{\nu} if you treat them as operators? I think I will need that to prove this [$J J^{\mu \nu}, J^{\rho \sigma}] = i (g^{\nu \rho} J^{\mu \sigma} - g^{\mu \rho} J^{\nu \sigma} - g^{\nu \sigma} J^{\mu \rho} + g^{\mu \sigma} J^{\nu...
  41. M

    Commutator in QM vs. Lie brackets in DG

    so, is the commutator relation between two observables just a Lie bracket? And if so, I have two questions: I know from differential geometry that the Lie bracket of two vector fields gives me a third vector field. So, what do we mean when we say that [x,p] = i*hbar? In fact, is there at all...
  42. K

    Can a Voltage Multiplier and Mechanical Commutator Enhance Motor Performance?

    I saw the following video: Lecture Series on Electronics For Analog Signal Processing I by Prof.K.Radhakrishna Rao, Department of Electrical Engineering,IIT Madras. For more details on NPTEL visit http://nptel.iitm.ac.in Category: Education Tags: Voltage Multiplier So I was wondering...
  43. I

    Proof of a commutator algebra exp(A)exp(B)=exp(B)exp(A)exp([A,B])

    I want to prove this formula e^Ae^B = e^Be^Ae^{[A,B]} The only method I can come up with is expand the LHS, and try to move all the B's to the left of all the A's, but it is so complicated in this way. i.e. e^Ae^B=\frac{A^n}{n!}\frac{B^m}{m!} = \frac{1}{n!m!}\Big(A^{n-1}BAB^{m-1} +...
  44. S

    Evaluating Commutator [x, p^2]: Need Help!

    i've been trying to evaluate this commutator the 'easy' way--that is, without using the definition of the momentum operator. the farthest i got was trying to use this rule.. [A, BC] = [A, B]C + B[A, C] so.. [x, p^2] = [x, p]p + p[x, p] so i guess i get 2ihp. but that doesn't make...
  45. A

    Quantum Physics, find the commutator

    This should be easy, since I'm sure I've misunderstood something here. The task is to find the commutator of the x- and y-components of the angular momentum operator. This operator is, according to physics handbook: -i \hbar \bold r \times \nabla I rewrote this as: i \hbar \nabla \times \bold...
  46. T

    Commutator relations for the Ehrenfest Theorem

    Hi there,... For a derivation of the Ehrenfestequations i found the following commutator relations for the Hamilton-Operator in a book: H = \frac{p_{op}^2}{2m} + V(r,t) and the momentum-operator p_{op} = - i \hbar \nabla respectively the position-operator r in position space: [H,p_{op}]...
  47. B

    Spatial representation of field commutator

    Hi all! I worked for hours on this simple commutator of real scalar fields in qft: \left[\Phi\left(x\right),\Phi\left(y\right) \right] = i\Delta\left( x-y \right) where \Delta\left(x\right) = \frac{1}{i}\int {\frac{{d^4 p}} {{\left( {2\pi } \right)^3 }}\delta \left( {p^2 - m^2 }...
  48. E

    Do the Hamiltonian and Angular Momentum Commute in Spherical Coordinates?

    Do the Hamiltonian (H) and the z-component of angular momentum (L_z) commute? [H, L_z]=0 H = [(-(hbar)^2/2m) dell^2] + V(r, theta, phi) where dell is the gradient, and V is the potential L_z = -i(hbar)(d/d phi) where d is actually a partial derivative I know how to find a...
  49. Peeter

    Doran/Lasenby. Commutator and symmetric products?

    Geometric Algebra for Physicists, in equation (4.56) introduces the following notation A * B = \langle AB \rangle as well as (4.57) the commutator product: A \times B = \frac{1}{2}\left(AB - BA\right) I can see the value defining the commutator product since this selects all...
  50. N

    Math Help: Commutator & Relation [f(\hat{A}),\hat{B}]

    Does the relation [f(\hat{A}),\hat{B}] = df(\hat{A})/d\hat{A} follow when A commutes with [A,B]? or is this only valid when [A,B]=1?
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