Lagrangian Definition and 1000 Threads
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Finding Lagrangian for Overhanging String on Frictionless Table
Homework Statement B is 10kg C is 20kg can I find a lagrangian for this system? If so how? Diagram: http://imgur.com/j811rzw Homework Equations L=T-V Kinetic = .5mv^2 Potential = mgh The Attempt at a Solution I know the kinetic energy must be 0 right? How could I find the potential?- Boltzman Oscillation
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- Force Kinetic Lagrangian Mechanics Potential
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Set up the Lagrangian for a CO2 molecule
Homework Statement The carbon dioxide molecule can be considered a linear molecule with a central carbon atom, bound to two oxygen atoms with a pair of identical springs in opposing directions. Study the longitudinal motion of the molecule. If three coordinates are used, one of the normal...- FilipLand
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- Classical dynamics Classical mechanics Co2 Lagrangian Lagrangian mechanics Molecule Set
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Two masses connected by spring rotate around one axis
Homework Statement Take the x-axis to be pointing perpendicularly upwards. Mass ##m_1## slides freely along the x-axis. Mass ##m_2## slides freely along the y-axis. The masses are connected by a spring, with spring constant ##k## and relaxed length ##l_0##. The whole system rotates with...- YellowBiro
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- Axis Lagrangian Lagrangian mechanics Mass spring system Non-inertial frame Rotate Rotating frame Spring Two masses
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I Parity of theta term of Lagrangian
I have a very simple question. Let's consider the theta term of Lagrangian: $$L = \theta \frac{g^2}{32 \pi^2} G_{\mu \nu}^a \tilde{G}^{a, \mu \nu}$$ Investigate parity of this term: $$P(G_{\mu \nu}^a)=+G_{\mu \nu}^a$$ $$P( \tilde{G}^{a, \mu \nu} ) =-G_{\mu \nu}^a$$ It is obvious. But what about...- illuminates
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- Lagrangian Parity Qcd Term Theta
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Gauge invariance of lagrangian density
The problem: $$\mathcal{L} = F^{\mu \nu} F_{\mu \nu} + m^2 /2 \ A_{\mu} A^{\mu} $$ with: $$ F_{\mu \nu} = \partial_{\nu}A_{\mu} - \partial_{\mu}A_{\nu} $$ 1. Show that this lagrangian density is not gauge invariance 2.Derive the equations of motion, why is the Lorentzcondition still...- Dhyrim
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- Density Gauge Gauge invariance Invariance Lagrangian Lagrangian density Qft
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Lagrangian for a single scalar field
Homework Statement Hello all ! Over the past few day's, I've been trying to understand how Sean Carroll comes to the conclusion that he does on equation 1.153. I've tried to look for various resources online but I still have trouble understanding how he is able to add both partial derivatives...- Spoonszz
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- Field Lagrangian Scalar Scalar field
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Equation of motion of a Lagrangian density
Homework Statement from the lagrangian density of the form : $$L= -\frac{1}{2} (\partial_m b^m)^2 - \frac{M^2}{2}b^m b_m$$ derive the equation of motion. Then show that the field $$F=\partial_m b^m $$ justify the Klein_Gordon eq.of motion. Homework Equations bm is real. The Attempt at a...- radioactive8
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- Density Equation of motion Lagrangian Lagrangian density Motion
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Derivation of the Eqation of Motion from Fermi Lagrangian density
Homework Statement Hello, I am trying to find the equations of motion that come from the fermi lagrangian density of the covariant formalism of Electeomagnetism.Homework Equations The form of the L. density is: $$L=-\frac{1}{2} (\partial_n A_m)(\partial^n A^m) - \frac{1}{c} J_m A^m$$ where J...- radioactive8
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- Density Derivation Fermi Lagrangian Lagrangian density Motion
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I Hamiltonian of a Physical Theory: Lagrangian vs Transformation
What does it means for a physical theory to have hamiltonian, if it is formulated in lagrangian form? Why doesn't someone just apply the lagrangian transformation to the theory, and therefore its hamiltonian is automatically gotten?- Narasoma
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- Hamiltonian Lagrangian Physical Theory Transformation
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A My T-shirt and the Standard Model
This T-shirt I bought at a physics conference displays the following equation. It looks like the Lagrangian of the Standard Model of particle physics but I only recognise lines 1 (electroweak) and 3 (Higgs mechanism). What are lines 2 and 4 and what is/isn't included? eg. are quarks, gluons...- mollwollfumble
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- Lagrangian Model Neutrino mass Standard Standard model
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Why is it obvious that this Lagrangian is Lorentz invariant?
We've just been introduced to Langrangians, and my lecturer has told us that the Lagrangian density ##\mathcal{L} = \frac{1}{2} (\partial ^{\mu}) (\partial_{\mu}) -\frac{1}{2} m^2\phi^2## is obviously Lorentz invariant. Why? Yes it's a scalar, but I can't see why it obviously has to be a Lorentz...- Kara386
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- Invariant Lagrangian Lorentz Lorentz invariant
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Electromagnetic Lagrangian, EoM, Polarisation States
Homework Statement Attached: Homework Equations Euler-Lagrange equations to find the EoM The Attempt at a Solution [/B] Solution attached: I follow, up to where the sum over ##\mu## reduces to sum over ##\mu=i## only, why are there no ##\mu=0## terms? I don't understand at all. Many...- binbagsss
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- Electromagnetic Eom Lagrangian Polarisation States
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Construct the Lagrangian for the system
Homework Statement Hello! I have some problems with constructing Lagrangian for the given system: (Attached files) Homework Equations The answer should be given in the following form: L=T-U=... The Attempt at a Solution I tried to construct the Lagrangian, but I'm not sure if I did it...- proton4ik
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- Lagrangian Lagrangian mechanics System
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Generalized Velocity: Lagrangian
Homework Statement [/B] In this example, I know that I can define the horizontal contribution of kinetic energy to the ball as ##\frac{1}{2}m(\dot{x} + \dot{X})^2##. In the following example, Mass ##M_{x1}##'s horizontal contribution to KE is defined as ##\frac{1}{2}m(\dot{X} -...- WWCY
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- Classical generalized Lagrangian Mechanics Velocity
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Lagrangian: Pendulum down a slope
Homework Statement I have the answer for part a, which is: $$\theta '' + \frac{a}{r} \cos \theta + \frac{g}{r} \sin \theta$$ My issue lies with getting the following equation of motion for part b, $$\theta '' + \frac{g}{r} \cos \alpha \sin \theta = 0$$ Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a...- WWCY
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- Classical Lagrangian Mechanics Pendulum Slope
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Difference between Hamiltonian and Lagrangian Mechanics
Hello, I am trying to "integrate into my understanding" the difference between Hamiltonian and Lagrangian mechanics. In a nutshell: If Lagrange did all the work and formulated L = T - V, they why is Hamilton's name attached to the minimization principle? YES; I KNOW about Hamilton's Second... -
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Understanding Lagrangian Mechanics: Equations of Motion and Applications
I’m a bit confused about what exactly lagranigian mechanics is. I know that L = Ke - Pe I also know the equation d/dt(∂L/∂x’) - ∂L/∂x = 0 1.) Apparentaly solving this equation gives the equations of motion. What exactly does that mean though? I solved a very simple problem and got the...- Fascheue
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- Lagrangian Lagrangian mechanics Mechanics
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Lagrangian of system with circle and cube
Hello. I have some problems with making Lagrangian. I need your advice. 1. Homework Statement I have this situation: Consider the circular path is intangible and without friction. I have to find Lagrangian for coordinates x and θ. Homework Equations [/B] L = U - V The Attempt at a...- Oomph!
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- Circle Cube Lagrangian System Theoretical mechanics
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Lagrangian equations of particle in rotational paraboloid
Hello. I solve this problem: 1. Homework Statement The particles of mass m moves without friction on the inner wall of the axially symmetric vessel with the equation of the rotational paraboloid: where b>0. a) The particle moves along the circular trajectory at a height of z = z(0)...- Oomph!
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- Lagrangian Lagrangian mechanics Paraboloid Particle Rotational
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I Double sided arrow notation in Dirac Field Lagrangian
In a thesis, I found double sided arrow notation in the lagrangian of a Dirac field (lepton, quark etc) as follows. \begin{equation} L=\frac{1}{2}i\overline{\psi}\gamma^{\mu}\overset{\leftrightarrow}{D_{\mu}}\psi \end{equation} In the thesis, Double sided arrow is defined as follows...- TAKEDA Hiroki
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- Dirac Dirac field Field Gauge theory Lagrangian Notation Quantum field theory Standard model
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Lagrangian equations - ring which is sliding along a wire
Homework Statement Hello. I have this problem: I have a ring which is sliding along a wire in the shape of a spiral because of gravity. Spiral (helix) is given as the intersection of two surfaces: x = a*cos(kz), y = a*sin(kz). The gravity field has the z axis direction. I have to find motion...- Oomph!
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- Lagrangian Ring Sliding Wire
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Lagrangian of a sphere rolling down a moving incline
Homework Statement A sphere of mass m2 and radius R rolls down a perfectly rough wedge of mass m1. The wedge sits on a frictionless surface so as the sphere rolls down, the wedge moves in opposite direction. Obtain the Lagrangian. Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution Here's my diagram...- kafn8
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- Incline Lagrangian Rolling Sphere
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Classical What Are the Best Books on Lagrangian Mechanics and Problem-Solving Resources?
What books include the theory of lagrangian mechanics? And where can i also find some problems?Could lagrangian mechanics help me in solving problems with oscillations?- fib1123
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- Lagrangian Lagrangian mechanics Mechanics
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How Does Homogeneity of Space and Time Affect Lagrangian Mechanics?
Hi, i know that The homogeneity of space and time implies that the Lagrangian cannot contain explicitly either the radius vector r of the particle or the time t, i.e. L must be a function of v only but the lagrangian definition is ##L=\int L(\dot q,q,t)##, so velocity appears in the definition...- Andrea Vironda
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- Homogeneity Lagrangian Lagrangian mechanics Mechanics Space Time
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A Weird problem with a Lagrangian
I'm trying to follow the calculations in this paper. But I have a weird problem in section 2. To calculate the entanglement entropy using the Ryu-Takayanagi prescription, you have to extremize the area of a surface. So you have to use Euler-Lagrange equations for some kind of an action. The...- ShayanJ
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- Lagrangian Weird
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I Time-dependent mass and the Lagrangian
I was talking to a friend about Lagrangian mechanics and this question came out. Suppose a particle under a potential ##U(r)## and whose mass is ##m=m(t)##. So the question is: the Lagrangian of the particle can be expressed by ##L = \frac{1}{2} m(t) \dot{\vec{r}} ^2 -U(r)## or I need to...- Mr rabbit
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- Lagrangian Mass
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Classical Path using Lagrangian and EOM
Homework Statement Show that the classical path satisfying ##\bar{x}(t_a) = x_a##, ##\bar{x}(t_b) = x_b## and ##T = t_b-t_a## is $$\bar{x}(t) = x_b\frac{\sin\omega (t-t_a)}{\sin\omega T} + x_a\frac{\sin\omega (t_b-t)}{\sin\omega T}$$ Homework Equations The Lagrangian: ##L =...- spacetimedude
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- Classical Eom Lagrangian Path
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Where Did I Go Wrong with Conserved Quantities in Double Pendulum Lagrangian?
Homework Statement Hi, I'm doing the double pendulum problem in free space and I've noticed that I get two different conserved values depending on how I define my angles. Obviously, this should not be the case, so I'm wondering where I've gone wrong. Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution...- Physgeek64
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- Conserved quantities Lagrangian quantities
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I Particle energy and the Lagrangian -- help understanding it please
Hi, here i see that the energy of a single particle is calculated by deriving the lagrangian to the speed. I obtain something similar to a linear momentum. and then i see that the total energy is this momentum multiplied by speed and then subtracting lagrangian. could you explain to me these things?- Andrea Vironda
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- Energy Lagrangian Particle
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A The Lagrangian Density and Equations of Motion
Can Lagrangian densities be constructed from the physics and then derive equations of motion from them? As it seems now, from my reading and a course I took, that the equations of motion are known (i.e. the Klein-Gordon and Dirac Equation) and then from them the Lagrangian density can be...- bleist88
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- Density Dirac equation Equations of motion Klein-gordon Lagrangian Lagrangian density Lagrangian mechanics Motion Quantum field theory
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Lagrangian rolling cylinders + small oscillations
Homework Statement A point mass m is fixed inside a hollow cylinder of radius R, mass M and moment of inertia I = MR^2. The cylinder rolls without slipping i) express the position (x2, y2) of the point mass in terms of the cylinders centre x. Choose x = 0 to be when the point mass is at the...- phys
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- Cylinders Lagrangian Oscillations Rolling Small oscillations
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A The Connection Between Geodesics and the Lagrangian | Explained in Textbook
I've recently read in a textbook that a geodesic can be defined as the stationary point of the action \begin{align} I(\gamma)=\frac{1}{2}\int_a^b \underbrace{g(\dot{\gamma},\dot{\gamma})(s)}_{=:\mathcal{L}(\gamma,\dot{\gamma})} \mathrm{d}s \text{,} \end{align} where ##\gamma:[a,b]\rightarrow...- Pentaquark5
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- Geodesic Geodesic equation Geodesics Lagrangian
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I Uncovering the Mystery Behind SM Lagrangian Sums
Hello all, I'm a bit baffled by the fact that the various quite different components of the SM Lagrangian (or other systems, btw) are simply summed up, without even one ponderation coefficient, in the total Lagrangian. I know one reason it is like that is that... it works in practice, but I...- jouvelot
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- Lagrangian Sum
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I Lagrangian method for an LC-Circuit
In the paper http://physics.unipune.ernet.in/~phyed/26.2/File5.pdf, the author solves the LC-circuit using Euler-Lagrange equation. She assumes that the Lagrangian function for the circuit is $$L=T-V$$ where $$T=L\dot q^2/2$$ is the kinetic energy part $$V=q^2 / 2C$$ is the potential energy.She...- RickRazor
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- Electric circuits Energy Lagrangian Lagrangian mechanics Method
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A Majorana Lagrangian and Majorana/Dirac matrices
In Lancaster & Burnell book, "QFT for the gifted amateur", chapter 48, it is explained that, with a special set of ##\gamma## matrices, the Majorana ones, the Dirac equation may describe a fermion which is its own antiparticle. Then, a Majorana Lagrangian is considered...- mbond
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- Lagrangian Majorana Matrices
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I The propagator and the Lagrangian
I note the following: \begin{equation} \begin{split} \langle\vec{x}_n|e^{-i \frac{\mathcal{H}_n}{\hbar} (t_n-t_0)}|\vec{x}_{0}\rangle &=\delta(\vec{x}_n-\vec{x}_0)e^{-i \frac{\mathcal{H}_n}{\hbar} (t_n-t_0)} \end{split} \end{equation}I divide the time interval as follows...- redtree
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- lagrangian path integral formulation propagator
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I Checking My Understanding: Lagrangian & Path Integral Formulation
I note the following: \begin{equation} \begin{split} \langle \vec{x}| \hat{U}(t-t_0) | \vec{x}_0 \rangle&=\langle \vec{x}| e^{-2 \pi i \frac{\mathcal{H}}{\hbar} (t-t_0)} | \vec{x}_0 \rangle \\ &=e^{-2 \pi i \frac{\mathcal{H}}{\hbar} (t-t_0)} \delta(\vec{x}-\vec{x}_0)...- redtree
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- Dirac delta function Hamiltonian Integral Lagrangian Path Path integral Path integral formulation Propagator
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I Two Conserved Quantities Along Geodesic
Hi Everyone! I have done three years in my undergrad in physics/math and this summer I'm doing a research project in general relativity. I generally use a computer to do my GR computations, but there is a proof that I want to do by hand and I've been having some trouble. I want to show that...- maughanster
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- Conservation of energy Conserved quantities General relativity Geodesic Hamiltonian Lagrangian quantities
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A The Lagrangian a function of 'v' only and proving v is constant
Hi everyone. So I'm going through Landau/Lifshitz book on Mechanics and I read through a topic on inertial frames. So, because we are in an inertial frame, the Lagrangian ends up only being a function of the magnitude of the velocity only (v2) Now my question to you is, how does one prove that...- Ren Figueroa
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- Classical mechanics Constant Function Inertial frame Lagrangian Landau and lifshitz
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Question from Velocity-Dependent Potential in lagrangian (Goldstein)
currently working on format.. sor i was not preparedHi I think this question would be much related to calculus more than physics cause it seems I'd lost my way cause of calculus... but anyway! it says, Q=- \frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{q}}+\frac{d}{dt}(\frac{\partial{U}}{ \partial{ \dot{q}}} )... -
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Dirac Lagrangian invariance under chiral transformation
Consider the Dirac Lagrangian, L =\overline{\psi}\left(i\gamma^{\mu}\partial_{\mu}-m\right)\psi, where \overline{\psi}=\psi^{\dagger}\gamma^{0} , and show that, for \alpha\in\mathbb{R} and in the limit m\rightarrow0 , it is invariant under the chiral transformation...- ppedro
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- Chiral Dirac Dirac equation Invariance Lagrangian Quantum field theory Transformation
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I Variation of perfect fluid and Lie derivative
In Hawking-Ellis Book(1973) "The large scale structure of space-time" p69-p70, they derive the energy-momentum tensor for perfect fluid by lagrangian formulation. They imply if ##D## is a sufficiently small compact region, one can represent a congruence by a diffeomorphism ##\gamma: [a,b]\times...- TAKEDA Hiroki
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- Derivative Fluid General relativity Hawking Lagrangian Lie derivative Perfect fluid Variation
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Example 7-10 Lagrangian Dynamics Marion and Thornton
Homework Statement A particle of mass m is on top of a frictionless hemisphere centered at the origin with radius a" Set up the lagrange equatinos determine the constraint force and the point at which the particle detaches from the hemisphere Homework Equations L=T-U The Attempt at a...- MARX
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- Dynamics Example Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Physics
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I Lorentz Invariance of the Lagrangian
Hello! I started reading stuff on QFT and it seems that one of the main points is for the Lagrangian to be Lorentz invariant, so that the equations of motion remain the same in all inertial reference frames. I am not sure however i understand how do non inertial reference frames come into play...- Silviu
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- Invariance Lagrangian Lorentz Lorentz invariance
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Cycloid Lagrangian Homework - 2 Degrees of Freedom & Equations
Homework Statement A point like particle of mass m moves under gravity along a cycloid given in parametric form by $$x=R(\phi+\sin\phi),$$ $$y=R(1-cos\phi),$$ where R is the radius of the circle generating the cycloid and ##\phi## is the parameter (angle). The particle is released at the point...- spacetimedude
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- Lagrangian
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Pendulum oscillating in an accelerating car
We have a car accelerating at a uniform rate ## a ## and a pendulum of length ## l ## hanging from the ceiling ,inclined at an angle ## \phi ## to the vertical . I need to find ##\omega## for small oscillations. From the Lagrangian and Euler-Lagrange equations, the equation of motion is given...- saadhusayn
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- Car Euler lagrange equation Lagrangian Oscillating Pendulum Small angle
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Spring Pendulum with Drag: Newtonian and Lagrangian Approaches
Homework Statement Consider a point mass of mass m suspended from an ideal, massless spring. Let ##\theta ## be measured from the vertical. Find the displacement of the mass as a function of time if the spring is initially stretched/compressed a distance ## l_0 ## and has an initial velocity...- StudentOfScience
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- Drag Lagrangian Newtonian Pendulum Spring
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I What does it mean: "up to total derivatives"
Hi. I don't understand the meaning of "up to total derivatives". It was used during a lecture on superfluid. It says as follows: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lagrangian for complex scalar field ##\phi## is $$ \mathcal{L}=\frac12 (\partial_\mu \phi)^*...- Ken Gallock
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- Derivatives Lagrangian Mean Scalar field Spontaneous symmetry breaking Superfluid Total derivative
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A Relations between lagrangian and hamiltonian
Lagrangian is defined by ##L=L(q_i,\dot{q}_i,t)## and hamiltonian is defined by ##H=H(q_i,p_i,t)##. Why there is relation H=\sum_i p_i\dot{q}_i-L end no H=L-\sum_i p_i\dot{q}_i or why ##H## is Legendre transform of ##-L##?- LagrangeEuler
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- Hamiltonian Lagrangian Relations
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I Why are free-field Lagrangians quadratic in fields?
What is the intuitive reasoning for requiring that a Lagrangian describing a free-field contains terms that are at most quadratic in the field? Is it simply because this ensures that the EOM for the field are linear and hence the solutions satisfy the superposition principle implying (at least...- Frank Castle
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- Field theory Fields Intuition Lagrangian Lagrangians Qft Quadratic
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