Damper Definition and 66 Threads

  1. Juanda

    I How Do Eddy Current Dampers Work in Space Applications?

    This post is somewhat of a continuation of this other post. I would like to better understand induction and be able to link the electrical equations with Newton's. For reference, this is a paper about the Eddy Current Damper I would like to study first. I think these components are very well...
  2. LowBlackFast

    Automotive Spring and damper on rocker

    Can someone help me evaluate an idea that I have? I'm investigating the idea of placing a very progressive pull spring and a digressive shock on a rocker to control the timing and rotation of an axle. I could be way off, but here's the scenario in my head. Both shock and spring are being...
  3. G

    Tainter Damper Figure: Analyzing Forces

    Figure: Attempt at a solution: $$b=12\, \textrm{m},\quad H=8\, \textrm{m}$$ a) $$F_H=p_{CG}A=3767040\, \textrm{N}=\boxed{3767,04\, \textrm{kN}}$$ $$A=8\cdot 12=96\, \textrm{m}^2$$ $$p_{CG}=\rho_g h_{cg}=39240\, \textrm{Pa}$$ b) $$F_V=mg=\rho_g V$$ We calculate ##\theta \rightarrow 8=10\cdot...
  4. R

    Boundary conditions for 2 ropes fixed to a massless ring with a damper

    Hi, I'm not quite sure if I'm correct. I need to find the boundary conditions for 2 ropes ##T_1 \mu_1, T_2 \mu_2## fixed at ##x=0## to a massless ring with a massless damper of force ##F_d - -bv_y## Here what I think, since the ring and the damper is massless ##\sum F_y = 0##. Thus, ##-T_1...
  5. I

    Signal transfer properties of a spring-suspended platform?

    Ok, the last time I did something with physics, save for simple in-game simulation of gravity, was many moons ago in high school. I certainly did not learn to do this in high school, although two subjects I had there at a basic level, are touched: Waves and Classical mechanics. I have no idea...
  6. K

    How to solve spring mass damper system manually?

    The other day when I solved a spring mass damper system in Matlab, I was curious how in olden days would have people solved the equation. We all know the 2nd order differential equation of the system: However if I know the time, damping coefficient, stiffness and mass, will I be able to find...
  7. A

    Differential Equations and Damper Curves

    Good evening, I have been wrestling with the following and thought I would ask for help. I am trying to come up with the equations of motion and energy stored in individual suspension components when a wheel is fired towards the car but, there is a twist! I am assuming a quarter car type...
  8. K

    Automotive Why don't motorcycle clutches need torsional damper springs?

    I was reading the difference in construction between a car clutch (dry, single plate) and a motorcycle clutch (wet, multiplate). I understand wet multiplate clutches do not have torsional springs in them. How is the Engine vibration damped then? Can we not use this same arrangement in a car?
  9. sophiecentaur

    Auto/Motor Can a homemade telescopic damper solve a pesky gate spring problem?

    This is not actually an automotive project but the thread should suit practical petrolheads and the like, I think. My problem is that our front garden gate needs a strong spring so that it will shut and latch itself reliably and prevent our (visiting) dog from getting out onto a fairly busy...
  10. physea

    I Calculating Viscous Damper Energy in Spring-Mass Systems

    Hello, In problems that involve springs and viscous dampers, eg a mass falls on a spring that also has a viscous damper, how can we calculate the energy absorbed by the damper? I mean, we know the energy absorbed by the spring (1/2*k*x^2), we know the kinetic energy of the mass (1/2*m*u^2)...
  11. L

    How to calculate the pressure on a piston in a damper system?

    Hello all, I'm trying to calculate the pressures exerted back on a piston by a working hydraulic fluid in a damper system. I've attached a drawing of the system and the equations I'm using. Essentially the piston motion is restricted by flow through an orifice. I have data for the flow rates...
  12. H

    Can We Create an Electric Field Blocking Material Like Mu-Metal?

    Is it possible to create a material that will block an electric field like mu-metal blocks magnetic fields?
  13. V

    Mass-spring-damper system "shock absorber"

    Homework Statement Find equations of motion for mechanical system given by picture, where m = 1kg, k1 = 10, k2 = 25, b = 3 and natural lengths of springs are a1 = 1m, a2 = 2m. The whole system is in a gravitational field g = 9.81m/s^2 Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution I came up with...
  14. eggwomen

    How can I design a double mass-spring damper system in equilibrium?

    Hi! I have this project on my CAE classes in which I have to design a system like this, which would be in equilibrium, so i guess that the masses should move with the constant amplitude. I have no idea how to calculate the k parameter, I tried to do this analogically to mass-spring damper...
  15. A

    How Do You Apply Laplace Transforms to Vehicle Suspension Analysis?

    Homework Statement Diagram for a vehicle suspension is given. Displacement of wheel is given by 'x' and and displacement of body is 'y'. Spring constant, k = (7*10^4) Nm Damping coefficient, c = (3*10^3) N/m/s mass,m = 250kg a) Make a Laplace Transform of system and utilize it to predict 'y'...
  16. W

    Deriving relationship between LVDT and mass spring damper

    Homework Statement [/B] I have this system below. It is the schematic of a linear accelerometer moving horizontally, where m is the total mass of the slide, b denotes the viscous damping, and k represents the spring constant. The relative position between the moving mass and the case is...
  17. Spacexplorer

    Understanding How Dampers and Springs Work in Car Suspension Systems

    Hi guys. It could be an easy question but I started at the deepest. I wonder how it works like a car suspension system. How does damper work with spring? What is the difference between forced-nonforced systems? Why do we calculate frequency of spring? What does it provide us? What is the point...
  18. Q

    Base excited stacked mass spring damper systems

    Homework Statement I'm trying to derive the equations of motion and state space as well as the transfer function for a system which has two mass spring damper systems stacked on top of each other. The system is base excited. I attached a pic of the system Homework Equations - Sum of the...
  19. H

    Knee Speed/ Velocity Split for damper

    Hey guys I'm trying to figure out the ideal knee speed or velocity split for a particular car that I'm designing. What I'm trying to do is relate the knee speed (or crossover speed) of my damper to the crossover point in the displacement transmissiblity graph so that I can achieve optimum...
  20. H

    What is the ideal damper for a passenger car suspension?

    I've been a bit lost figuring out what damper I should be using for the front suspension I am designing. Right now I'm running a wheel rate of 60 lbf/in at the front with a ride frequency of 1.2254 Hz. The front is also supporting a sprung mass of 391.68 lbf. Comfort is the end requirement of...
  21. J

    Modeling and Simulation (Spring, Mass, Damper system)

    Homework Statement 1. The first part of the problem was to find a transfer function. Output is the displacement of the mass (mass of pinion is negligible) 2.The next thing to do was find the poles, which I believe means set the denominator=0 and solve for s. 3. The next thing to do was find...
  22. marellasunny

    Rear damper travel; Rear passenger packaging

    I am quite uncertain as to why the rear damper is inclined at a angle to the inside of the car. By doing so, does one ensure for rear wheel travel to be along a curved up/down path? i.e I am perplexed as most of the modern rear suspensions are multi-link and have their dampers inclined → This...
  23. K

    Mass - Spring - damper in Parallel

    Homework Statement The problem is to determine the transfer function where force F is input and displacement x is output in the mass-spring-damper mechanism.Homework Equations Spring Force = kx [k:spring constant] Damping Force = Cx [C:damping coefficient] Force = (Mass)(acceleration) The...
  24. K

    Valve Shim calculation of a damper

    Hello, How can one calculate the dimensions of valve shims in Gas pressure shock absorber? Desription- The valve shims are orifices to the fluid flow in the hydraulic damping system. The dimensions play a very vital role in the adjustment of compression and rebound of the damper. I have...
  25. marellasunny

    Damper energy absorption during rebound is different from compression

    I understand that the purpose of a damper system is to stop the spring from bouncing during rebound. But,technically speaking,I do not understand the matter of energy absorption in the damper during rebound. 1.The damper is absorbing energy during compression along the bump and dissipating...
  26. Y

    Damper Calculation: Calculate Damping Force

    Hi, Please tell me damper calculation.ie.how to calculate damping force??
  27. P

    How to make a rotational damper?

    How does one go about making a damper for a rotating system? Let's say we have a wind-up toy, and we want it to go slower, or something like that. Sorry for such a basic question, but I can't really figure out a decent way to do this. Any ideas?
  28. B

    Spring damper system equation of motion

    Homework Statement A 10 kg block is displaced 20 mm and released. If damping coefficient is 100 N.s/m, how many cycles will be executed before amplitude is reduced to 1 mm or below? The stiffness of the spring is k=20000 N/m. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I...
  29. C

    Can Eddy Current Dampers Be Used to Add Damping to Small Mechanical Systems?

    Hello, I have a mechanical motion platform. It's only about 8 grams and about 5x5x5 cm. I'm a bit worried about the natural frequency and I want to mechanically damp it to slightly under-damped. I'm using phosphor-bronze for my spring elements, I'm not sure how much damping is intrinsic to...
  30. F

    External damping force in Mass Spring Damper system

    Hi, I am designing a wave energy converter, which has one degree of freedom - heaving motion. Meaning it will move only in vertical direction. My system can be considered as a Mass Spring Damper system. Thus my equation of motion is: F=Fh+Fe Where, Fe= Excitation force...
  31. jegues

    Forces on a Mechnical System (Spring, Damper etc )

    Homework Statement Write equations that could be used to solve for, V_{1}(s) \quad , \quad V_{2}(s) in the Laplace domain for the mechanical system shown in the figure attached. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I think I understand most of the problem, but I think I...
  32. L

    Solving a Mass Spring Damper System with Lagrange Equation

    Hello! I am taking a course in dynamics and have a question about a spring-mass-damper system (see the attached file) that I want to solve using Lagrange equation (see attached file). I am having trouble writing the equation of motion for this problem. At first I tried doing it the way I...
  33. H

    Spring damper system without a mass

    Hi guys:Imagine a spring and and damper in parallel, connected to the ground on the right, and connected by a node on the left.I never quite understand why it is said that the forces between the two must be zero.According to my professor and the textbook, it is because the node has no mass, so...
  34. P

    Spring and Damper system for viabrations

    Hi, This is a real life problem I am trying to find vibration effects. I have 2 servo motors constantly going back and forth on a granite countertop. The two servo motors are moving two 75 KG masses. I am trying to solve for the vibration effects that will happen on the granite...
  35. H

    2nd order mass, spring damper in series

    1. Homework Statement B, K, M 2. Homework Equations 1. xs(t) -----spring ----mass-----damper-----fixed, derive DE for x of mass given :2. F - > M -----spring-------damper ---- fixed in series, derive the DE for velocity of spring 3. The Attempt at a Solution 1. ma =...
  36. F

    Tuned Mass Damper: Damp Down or Reduce Vibration?

    Will a tuned mass damper damp down the excitation frequency ? Or it just reduce the vibration amplitude? Thank you.
  37. M

    Designing a Damper: Needing Guidance

    Hi I'm a bit stuck on a problem I'm trying to figure out. I am trying to design a damper, the layout is show below: (apologies for the poor 'cad' drawing!) So far i know: I for the beam, how much energy needs to be absorbed by the damper (4500j) and the stroke (15mm). The maximum loading...
  38. V

    Harmonic damper on break barrel air rifle?

    basically, I am trying to reduce vibrations from my break barrel air rifle which has dual recoils in either direction. they happen almost simultaneously, but it still throws off my accuracy as one occurs just before the pellet leaves the barrel. the kick isn't strong but rather sharp. here's a...
  39. S

    Underplatform Damper: Explained & Uses

    Please can anyone explain about underplatform damper and where it is used?
  40. H

    Damper Oscillator dropping amplitude to half the original value

    Homework Statement Consider a damped oscillator Assume that the mass is 318g, the spring constant is 104 N/m, and b = 0.106 kg/s. How long does it take for the amplitude to drop to half its initial value? M = 318 g Or 0.318 kg K = 104 N/m b = 0.106 kg/s Homework Equations n / a The...
  41. L

    Spring - Damper - Mass System (in series)

    Spring - Damper - Mass System in series fixed-----Spring-----Damper-----Mass----->F c d m --> --> x1 x2 I need help setting up the equations, I know it...
  42. Z

    Is K2 Positive in the Spring Mass Damper State Space Equations?

    I'm sorry that post my problem picture, there is a reason that our lecturer doesn't allow this, he can find this problem using keyword included in question. the problem is i want to write state space equations also output. the sate variables x1 v1 and theta dynamic equation for mass...
  43. L

    Damper Selection for High Power Rifle Shooting Rest | 3502 ft-lbs of Energy

    Hi , I am making a shooting rest for my high power rifle and I would like to have a damper take most of the recoil energy so that the shooting rest doesn't move back or up when shooting. I attempted to calculate what damper would be appropriate for this but I am getting results that don't...
  44. Y

    Choose a Damper: How to Find the Right One

    Lets assume a simple situation where there is a spring and a damper connected in parallel. We place some weight above them and begin the vibrations. The equation will then be: Mx'' = -kx -cx' -Mg So, I want to find a damper with a certain coeffitient c. I mean, that I want to find a real...
  45. A

    Governing Equations: Force on Damper w/ Damping Constant D

    i want to know the governing equations regarding force application on a damper with damping constant D. if you provide some force f to a damper , then how much force does it transfers to the other side. f(input)------------>----------------------[d]--------------------->force output...
  46. W

    Spring Damper Design: Determine K & C for Helicopter Landing

    Homework Statement For a Helicopter landing on an undercarriage system modeled as a single spring damper. In principle, is it possible to determine K and C values for a single (constant rate) spring damper system given the mass of the helicopter and 2 independent scenarios of initial...
  47. H

    How Does Cylinder Size Affect the Damping Coefficient in a Pneumatic Damper?

    Hi, everyone! I'm designing pneumatic damper and I need to work out what the damping coefficient is. Basically it uses a steel rod pushing in a capped aluminium tube with a small air outlet (see diagram). I'm trying to work out what the relation is between the dimensions of the cylinder and...
  48. C

    How do you model a spring and damper in series?

    I was wondering about something, and after a quick search through the forums didn't provide an answer I figured I would ask. So in modeling a spring-mass-damper system, if you have a spring and damper in series, how do you represent that? Do you have to introduce another variable, say y, at...
  49. 1

    Solve Equation of Motion for Spring Damper System

    Can you please help me solve the equation of motion for the following diagram Thanks
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