Thermodynamics Definition and 1000 Threads

  1. Z

    I Empirical temperature scales using different thermometers

    It took me a while to understand (I think) the concepts below. I have two questions. 1) What does "absolute" mean in the term "absolute temperature scale"? 2) What is the difference between the two constant-volume hydrogen gas thermometers (one at high pressure the other at low pressure)...
  2. Z

    Why does temperature fall in endothermic process in adiabatic system?

    In addition, "not all boundaries permit the transfer of energy even though there is a temperature difference between the system and its surroundings. Boundaries that do permit the transfer of energy as heat are called diathermal; those that do not are called adiabatic." If we have an...
  3. Z

    I Is it accurate to say work is motion against an opposing force?

    Is the following quote accurate: "The fundamental property in thermodynamics is work: work is done to achieve motion against an opposing force" Specifically, I am asking about the portion after the colon. I am a little confused by the notion of an opposing force. Let's say we are in outer...
  4. Z

    I Sign convention on work done to a closed system containing gas

    Here is the reasoning as it appears in the book. Consider the following setup Work (w) is a scalar quantity defined ##w=\vec{f}\cdot\vec{L}##. where ##\vec{f}## is the vector force and ##\vec{L}## is the vector length of path. If the force vector of magnitude ##\lVert \vec{f}\rVert## and...
  5. jeffinbath

    I Surely the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is defied by gravity?

    As our sun and the other stars evolved from gravitationally led aggregations of hydrogen gas which permeated our early universe then that is an example of a high entropy system becoming a low entropy system and the so-called "arrow of time etc." was reversed?
  6. Juanda

    I Irreversible adiabatic processes & entropy change (clarification needed)

    Last month @Chestermiller opened the thread: Focus Problem for Entropy Change in Irreversible Adiabatic Process. I couldn't wrap my head around something apparently simple but the thread was not about that so I was instructed to open a new thread to discuss it separately and keep the original...
  7. Z

    What does it mean to specify the extensive state of an ideal gas?

    I was trying to solve the following problem at the end of chapter 1 of the book "Physical Chemistry", 4th Edition, by Silbey, Alberty, and Bawendy: Here is the information I collected about this topic in the chapter: 1) Intensive properties of a gas remain the same for any subsystem of a...
  8. Z

    How to understand this 3d surface of ##P,\bar{V}##, and ##T##?

    Here is the figure I would like to understand First of all, I don't see a specific surface. In the middle plot, I see what looks like the innards of a solid cube that has a large piece cut off. There is also an arrow annotated as "T=const". It is not clear what this arrow is pointing to. I...
  9. Z

    What does "limit of zero pressure" mean for ideal gas temperature?

    Here is the reasoning. We have three systems (A, B, and C) each consisting of a certain mass of a different fluid (ie, a gas or a compressible liquid). For the systems we are considering, we know from experiment that pressure and volume are independent thermodynamic variables and that the...
  10. immortalsameer13

    What is the Best Thermodynamics Book for Bachelor's Study?

    but at the same time give true essence of fundamental quantities i.e. what truely is heat? I have read couple of books where each book gives definition of quantities but not its essence.
  11. S

    I Entropy reversal in an infinite static universe?

    As far as I know, entropy could be reversed by the Poincaré recurrence theorem if it had a finite horizon given by some amount of vacuum energy causing an accelerating expansion. However, I found this lecture by Leonard Susskind () where he tells a way through which the vacuum could decay into...
  12. K

    Engineering Thermodynamics calculation: Flashing water at 75C

    Hello all, For a project I really need to know some number i can't seem to produce myself. we are flashing water @75 degrees Celsius, the water after flash-cooling is 67 degrees constant pressure is 0.27 bar (absolute) flow rate is 15000 KG/per hour. how much water is vaporized? Help is much...
  13. K

    Exploring Advanced Thermodynamics in Dairy Processing: A Scientist's Perspective

    My name is Willem, I work in a Dairy trying my best to optimize improve processes and working methodes. Thermodynamics other than simple heat ex-echangers is beyond my knowledge but need it!
  14. K

    Thermodynamics Energy when flashing water -- How much water will be vaporized?

    Hello all, For a project I really need to know some number i can't seem to produce myself. we are flashing water @75 degrees Celsius, the water after flash-cooling is 67 degrees constant pressure is 0.27 bar (absolute) flow rate is 15000 KG/per hour. how much water is vaporized? Help is much...
  15. C

    A Calculating the optical depth of an inhomogeous gas

    My question emerges from my desire to calculate the optical depth, which should be unitless, for an inhomgeneous cloud of radius ##r##. For a homogeneous medium, the optical depth can be defined in terms of the density of a cloud relative to the density of the condensed medium: $$\tau = \alpha...
  16. O

    I What role does Quantum Mechanics play in a internal combustion engine?

    Thermodynamics deal with quantum mechanics all the time, so I wondered what role it played in a internal combustion engine. Could we calculate it and how does it affect the engine's final output?
  17. E

    I Obtaining this form for molar energy under virial expansion (Callen)

    In his Chapter 13.3 (2nd edition), Callen gives the standard form for the virial expansion for the mechanical equation of state of a fluid as an exapnsion in powers of the molar volume ##v##: $$P = \frac{RT}{v}\left(1 + \frac{B(T)}{v} + \frac{C(T)}{v^2} + \dots \right) \equiv P_{ideal} +...
  18. E

    I Equilibrium constant change with stoichiometric doubling (Callen)?

    Callen asks us (with respect to an ideal gas) I had thought to proceed as follow. We have the definition for the singular reaction: $$\ln K_s(T) = - \sum_j \nu_j \phi_j(T).$$ Now a reaction which is the sum of this reaction with itself (doubled reaction) has ##\nu_j \to 2\nu_j## so that its...
  19. E

    I Does Callen's Entropy Expression for a General Ideal Gas Contain an Error?

    In Ch. 13.1 of the second edition, Callen defines a general ideal gas as follows: Of course, all of these can be proved as a theorem of statistical mechanics given a no-interaction assumption. At any rate, my claim is about Callen's claim that a single component ##j## of general ideal gas...
  20. E

    I How to see this form for the chemical potential of an ideal gas?

    In Chapter 13.2 of his text, Callen states that the chemical potential with respect to the ##j##th component of an ideal gas can be written as $$\mu_j = RT \left[\phi_j(T) + \ln P + \ln x_j \right].$$ He states this outright and doesn't prove it, and I am trying to do so now. Based on what has...
  21. JulesP

    Gibbs energy for Lithiation in Lithium batteries

    In writing up a paper on some research work on the effects of transients on Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries, I am laying out the thermodynamics and energetics for the reaction laid out below, but am having trouble finding the numbers for the reaction. Does anyone know the correct figures to...
  22. Lupin

    I How much energy (in Joules) is stored in a standard 12g CO2 cartridge?

    A standard 12 gram cartridge contains both liquid and gaseous CO2 at 850psi. Assuming we are venting to atmosphere at sea level, how much energy can be extracted from the cartridge? We know it will expand to 12 grams * 22.4 liters/ 1 mole (44grams) = 6.1 liters. But how much energy did...
  23. E

    Why is solid density used in this thermodynamics problem?

    Callen asks us the following question in his famous textbook: I have answered as follows: However, I get the wrong answer and, in fact, the correct answer obtains from using ##\Delta P = -\rho_s g h##; that is, using the solid density for the change in pressure. Now why on earth should this...
  24. E

    I Why is ##dQ = dH## still valid for chemical reaction (Callen)?

    Consider a system which is characterized by the extensive variables ##(U,V,N_1,...,N_m)##. For a quasistatic process which occurs in contact with some pressure reservoir and where the ##N_i## are constant, one has $$dU = TdS -PdV \implies TdS = dQ,$$ where the implication follows from the First...
  25. E

    I Why does Callen insist a process must be reversible here?

    In a discussion about the (change in the) Helmholtz potential being interpretable as the maximum available amount of work for a system in contact with a thermal reservoir (i.e. the free energy), Callen seems to insist this fact is true only for reversible processes. Why should this be? I...
  26. S

    Correct statement about thermodynamics process

    I know process B absorbs heat but I can't determine the heat of process A. In adiabatic process, Q = 0 but process A is not adiabatic. I only know both W and ΔU will be negative for process A but how to know Q? Thanks
  27. Demystifier

    A Thermodynamics/gravity/CFT correspondence

    Some evidence (Bekenstein, Hawking, Jacobson, Verlinde, ...) points to the idea that gravity is really a thermodynamic theory in disguise. Other evidence (Susskind, Maldacena, Witten, ...) points to the idea that gravity is dual to a lower dimensional conformal field theory (CFT). Are these two...
  28. Juanda

    Optimization of barrel length in pneumatic cannons

    I was checking bait cannons and potato guns on the internet because they are fun. Maybe one day I'll build my own. First of all, these cannons use multiple sources of energy (combustion using hair spray, dry ice, etc.). I'll just consider compressed air cannons because I think they are the most...
  29. N

    How to design hydraulic system and size cooler

    Hi all, I've started working recently in a new job as an engineer in a lab with a bunch of physicists. A job they've given me is to size a water/glycol chiller (and basically design the hydraulic system i.e. fittings, tubing etc) to cool a bunch of equipment they've got in a few insulated...
  30. Juanda

    Classical Possible error in book (Thermodynamics: An engineering approach)

    Hello I was checking the book THERMODYNAMICS AN ENGINEERING APPROACH (the 2023 version) because I saw it recommended on the internet. I was surprised to find an error in one of their examples because it is already on the 10th edition. I'm pretty sure about the error but I wanted to confirm it...
  31. Slimy0233

    Should I have studied E&M before learning Optics, Waves & Oscillations

    I was trying to learn physics from a coaching institute and they started optics before they started Electricity and Magnetism and the lecturer went on saying somethings which I didn't completely understand. Is the coaching institute doing it wrong teaching me Optics before they taught me...
  32. R

    Problem about a block of ice melting (specific latent heat)

    Energy lost by water = Energy gained by ice Energy lost by water = 0.16 x 4200 x (100-t) Energy gained by ice = 0.205 x L + 0.205 x (t) (where t is the temperature at thermal equilibrium). However, there does not appear to be enough info to continue. The solution, however, considered t to be...
  33. F

    I Calculating Pressure Change Filling Gas Cylinders

    I want to work out how to calculate the pressure change in a gas cylinder if it is used to fill another cylinder to a lower pressure. For example, if a 50 litre gas cylinder initially at 200 bara is used to fill a 600 litre cylinder from atmospheric pressure to 1.5 Bara. What would the change...
  34. S

    I So what are the definitions of gas, liquid, solid?

    Obviously, we know intuitively what they mean, but it seems that physicists have developed an objective definition for all of these. If I were to guess, I'd say that: - a gas is vastly less compressible than a liquid or solid (i.e., which are considered in thermodynamics as basically...
  35. S

    How deep does thermodynamics go? And how much would a chemist know?

    TL;DR Summary: I'm trying to understand what research fields I would have access to as a person who's majoring in chemistry. So how deep does thermodynamics go and how much of a foothold could I get into research on it as someone who's majoring in chemistry? Or is it really only accessible to...
  36. Lotto

    B What is meant by "local melting"?

    I suppose it means that the gadolinium melts only at one particular location, but I have no idea how to take it mathematically. Could I just say that local melting is when I destroy a bond between two gadolinium atoms? Could I calculate with this? I just need to understand what I am supposed to...
  37. Sailor Al

    I Can Air Resist a Piston? A Serious Discussion

  38. chocopanda

    Mixing two ideal gases with different V, T at constant pressure

    To be honest, thermodynamics is really not my strong suit and I get confused when and how to apply formulas. My thought process is as follows: - there are two ideal gases (ideal gas law applies) - the pressure remains constant (isobaric process), so p1= p2 = p - I imagine there being two...
  39. P

    A system of independent particles (energy levels)

    Hi guys, Can you give me some feedback on whether my calculation is correct? I applied the formula below (Boltzmann Distribution) but I didn‘t know what to use for the variable z. I don‘t even know if I used the correct equation. Can you help me further? The task is: Consider a system of...
  40. Shovon00000

    Question about the 2nd law of thermodynamics (heat loss)

    Assume that a closed system of cylindar filled with ideal gas consists of a movable piston.We know from the 1st law dQ=dU +dW. According to the 2nd law mechanical energy can be totally converted into heat energy but heat energy cannot be converted completely into mechanical energy.The question...
  41. aquastor

    Thermodynamics Question Regarding Gibbs Free Energy, Enthalpy, Entropy

    Hello, is someone able to explain why these two are wrong. I am not sure how to figure out the enthalpy direction as the reaction is not changing state of matter, nor is it changing temperature. (Please solve without calculating anything) Thank you
  42. yinnxz

    Violation of 2nd Law of Thermodynamics

    I don't understand, can you calculate efficiency only using the temperature?
  43. Dario56

    Concept of Absolute Thermodynamic Activity

    In the textbook Electrochemical Systems by Newman and Alyea, Chapter 14: The definition of some thermodynamic functions, chemical potential of component (ionic or neutral) is written as a function of absolute activity: $$\mu_i=RT\ln(\lambda_i)\tag1$$ where ##\lambda_i## is the absolute activity...
  44. M

    Significant figures -- wrong answer to Thermodynamics question?

    For this problem, The solution is, ## Q = 54500 J ## , however, since the calculation for heat uses the first law which involves ##5 \times 10^{-3) m^3 ## value for the initial volume, should the finial answer not be to 1 sig fig as well? This would give ## 60000 J ##. Many thanks!
  45. M

    Closed path term in Thermodynamics

    For part(a) of this problem, The solution is, a. 160 J In part (a), are they referring to the simi-circular path from R to S instead of the path from R back to R? I though the closed path would be the path from R to R, or the path from S to S, where both give W = 0 since ##W = P(V_f - V_i) =...
  46. Dario56

    Standard Activity in Electrochemistry

    In the textbook Electrochemical Systems by Newman and Alyea, chapter 14: The definition of some thermodynamic functions, chemical potential of component (ionic or neutral) is written as a function of absolute activity: $$ \mu_i = RTln(\lambda_i) \tag {1} $$ where ##\lambda_i## is the absolute...
  47. C

    Trouble solving for end state of two control volumes in a rigid tank

    TL;DR Summary: Struggling to structure the problem and derive an analytical solution for gas expanding into other gas in a rigid tank. Preferred formulation is fixed control volumes. This is not a homework problem. The problem: Two control volumes (A and B) are in a rigid tank filled with air...
  48. D

    A Heat exchange in a thermal storage based on phase change materials

    Hello, I want to model a thermal battery based on phase change materials (PCM). It is a plate heat exchanger immersed in a PCM bath. The diagram is given in the attached file. I want to determine the temperature at each moment and from everywhere in the battery. The hypotheses are the...
  49. V

    Why is temperature constant after gas has expanded?

    The answer given for part (c) in the back is that temperature doesn't change as the gas in cylinder A expands to fill cylinder B. The thermodynamic system here is composed of the two cylinders A and B joined by some pipe. But, I cannot find a satisfactory explanation for temperature...
  50. pve

    Time to evaporate LN2 from a container

    Hello, Could someone please help me understand how to approximate how long it will take for liquid nitrogen in a room temperature container to completely evaporate. Here's the scenario: I have a metal container (41x13x15") filled with 5.5" of liquid nitrogen (just released from a Dewar ~ 320F)...
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